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Author:  zom-zom [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:04 pm ]
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Those clocks are like most of the "steampunk" accessories and such that I've seen.

A bunch of old junk parts placed around something to make it look old or From A Forgotten Time. You take a cheap Chinese-made battery-powered clock movement and pile old parts of things around it and sell it for $500. It's inherently still a cheap clock.

Author:  drok [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:05 pm ]
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I'm annoyed by the lack of knowledge of period costuming. Which is not a surprise, I'm just posting this in case there's a bet going.

"25+ year old science fiction genre called, and they want their genre back"

Next we'll be seeing fashion based on UK LeGuin's Earthsea works.

Author:  zom-zom [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:23 pm ]
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Geez drok, don't you realize that they're time travelers and they are picking up pieces of style from all sorts of eras?

Author:  Liighter [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:28 pm ]
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drok wrote:
I'm annoyed by the lack of knowledge of period costuming. Which is not a surprise, I'm just posting this in case there's a bet going.

"25+ year old science fiction genre called, and they want their genre back"


No one likes a dandy!

Author:  skywayman [ Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:13 pm ]
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http://www.lip-service.com/handlers/bro ... value=1301

Author:  Liighter [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:45 am ]
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skywayman wrote:
http://www.lip-service.com/handlers/browse.php?division=Lipservice&groupitem=StyleGroup&groupvalue=1301


God fucking damn it. I almost bought a leather pilot cap to complete my leather-daddy ensemble. Now this ruins it for me.

Author:  rskm1 [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:48 am ]
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So... many... snaps...

At least, I hope those are all snaps.
Because if they're buttons, you'd get friggin' carpal tunnel just getting dressed & undressed.

Author:  skywayman [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:55 am ]
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rskm1 wrote:
So... many... snaps...

At least, I hope those are all snaps.
Because if they're buttons, you'd get friggin' carpal tunnel just getting dressed & undressed.


Yeah, but if they are snaps you can rip it off and bare your skinny, pale chest! Then snap it up and do it again.

Author:  Rockula! [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:55 am ]
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OOOOOOHHHH !
Snap!

Author:  JPaganel [ Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:24 am ]
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Pilot cap? Is that like Snoopy's Red Baron helmet?

Author:  Liighter [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:41 am ]
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JPaganel wrote:
Pilot cap? Is that like Snoopy's Red Baron helmet?


Precisely.

Author:  JPaganel [ Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:36 pm ]
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Hah. Snoopy was so Steampunk. :P

Author:  skywayman [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:32 pm ]
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http://www.jakecress.com/picture_gallery.htm

Author:  veinsplasher [ Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:30 pm ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No38WZnw8Q8

Author:  Trioxin245 [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:00 pm ]
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Image

Author:  rskm1 [ Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:21 pm ]
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^ is that a third-gen? :lol:

Author:  thosquanta [ Thu Jul 16, 2009 1:26 pm ]
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http://www.avclub.com/articles/steampunk,30467/

Author:  2fisted [ Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:15 pm ]
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http://www.etsy.com/listing/42384018/st ... me-machine

Get one now! So you can go back to the glory days of Steam Punk!

Author:  Long Pig [ Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:28 pm ]
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Dude! In the past week you've posted blurbs acknowledging your familiarity with D&D magic spells and that you're researching steampunk on Etsy!

Aren't internet avatars suppose to hide these types of things from the public?

:wink:

Author:  2fisted [ Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:05 pm ]
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I'm proud of my MU/THF 23 level! & Druid!

I notice a lack of Rubber in many Steam Fashion Items? wtf?

Author:  Frost [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:10 pm ]
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Steampunk R2-D2

Image

Author:  Rockula! [ Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:07 pm ]
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I saw "The League of Extrordinary Gentlemen" the other day
I think that one counts

Author:  alisgray [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:20 pm ]
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the graphic novels were a hell of a lot better than the film, though, fyi.

Author:  thosquanta [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:55 pm ]
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the movie was goddamned atrocious.

Author:  Rockula! [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:38 pm ]
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yeah yeah yeah
blah blah blah
snob snob snob

The movie looks cool and will look cool if you project it on a screen
If I didn't like something because it was atrocious then I never would go to a Thought Thieves show
ha ha ha
Of course the "graphic novel" is better
I'm sure every film's original graphic novel was better

Guess what they have to compromise to get all of those multi-million dollar special effects?

Author:  thosquanta [ Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:22 pm ]
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i know what they compromised for that one.

characters.

plot.

commentary on the inherent imperialism and racism of 19th century british society.

and, sadly for a dumb comic book movie, any sort of action or sense of adventure.

Author:  Rockula! [ Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:25 pm ]
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Luckily, I get to look at films as source material insted of on their individual artistic merit
I am starting to get a fair amount of material now that would support a steampunk evening
and the whole night doesn't have to be sticking "Sky Captain" in the DVD player and hitting ''play" when you see the menu pop up in the middle of the evening

Anyone???

Author:  jheimbuch [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:21 am ]
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It's a goddamn shame that there aren't really any good steampunk movies. A few things dabble in the genre, but by and large they suffer from egregious plot holes or terrible situation-driven action sequences. LXG is probably the worst offender.

There are a few books that qualify pretty well - the actual League comics are quite good, Stephenson's "Diamond Age" sort of qualifies, but the Stephenson/Gibson "The Difference Engine" is probably the best example. Other than that, most of the genre is so fashion- and style-driven that I get frustrated with the lack of social realism. Gears don't make steampunk. The philosophy of technical progress in a non-progressive world, that makes the genre for me. The clockwork and corsets are just the trappings.

Author:  jheimbuch [ Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:23 am ]
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P.S. non-functioning gears are stupid.

Author:  JPaganel [ Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:49 pm ]
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jheimbuch wrote:
It's a goddamn shame that there aren't really any good steampunk movies. A few things dabble in the genre, but by and large they suffer from egregious plot holes or terrible situation-driven action sequences.
Just about everything I have read of the genre (which, admittedly, isn't a lot), has these same failings, plus hideous technical ineptitude on the part of authors, plus the odd compulsion to use the word "steam" a lot, whether it makes sense in the context or not.

People attempting to create steampunk lit should at least read Verne sometime...

Author:  Rockula! [ Sun Nov 21, 2010 2:27 pm ]
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JPaganel wrote:
People attempting to create steampunk lit should at least read Verne sometime...


Is that the guy that Jim Varney was always bothering?

Author:  JPaganel [ Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:01 pm ]
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Rockula! wrote:
Is that the guy that Jim Varney was always bothering?
I didn't know he was allergic to floor finish...

Author:  thosquanta [ Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:03 am ]
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nerdist wrote:
Steampunk is what happens when goths discover the color brown.

Author:  Ether [ Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:30 pm ]
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thosquanta wrote:
Steampunk is what happens when goths discover the color brown.


That is the funniest thing I've read/heard all week! Thank you!

~€~

Author:  alisgray [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:13 am ]
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2fisted wrote:
I notice a lack of Rubber in many Steam Fashion Items? wtf?


rubber was a product of colonial Britain by that point and quite popular as a "modern" material. that's reasonable.

Author:  zom-zom [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:05 am ]
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There's really nothing "reasonable" about Steam-Punk.

Author:  Wired-Nobody [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 6:59 pm ]
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i never got into steampunk really. one reason was that i didn't want to pay like $200 for a costume. and also, the outfits look more like costumes then real out and about clothing.

Also i never really felt that steampunk really reached out with an artistic message. Not like cyberpunk. I feel like steampunk sits in the background and looks cool rather than haveing real artistic meaning. Where as cyberpunk is what orginaly drew me to cybergoth clothing. Cyberpunk just explores so many ideas that are meaningful today (super coporations ruling rather than goverments, AI and what life really is, the dangers of a transhumanistic society, and how technology is taking over our lives).

Steampunks literature really hasn't a lot of merit in todays society (witht the execption of Frankenstein, which doesn't seem all that steampunk) its concepts are all too dated and cannot break anymore ground. Also modern steampunk authors are trying really hard to write a genre peice, and thats usually is a formula for failure. Also why a lot of steampunk movies suck.

I guess to me, steampunk seems more like an aesthetics or fashion statement (but no one wears it like normal clothing), something you tack on to things to make them cooler, rather than a full feldged sub-genre. Frankenstein and other "steampunk literature" where really just really old science fiction and really stand up on their own without their own subgenre.

and i really don't see how it can really evolve. it seems the things that define it also constrict it too much. It seems too easy to define.

Author:  thosquanta [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:18 pm ]
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frankenstein is a quality novel.

Author:  skywayman [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:55 am ]
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Wired-Nobody wrote:
i never got into steampunk really. one reason was that i didn't want to pay like $200 for a costume.


See, that's where you miss the point. A true steampunk will make his/her own costume, complete with functional accessories.

Author:  zom-zom [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:02 am ]
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skywayman wrote:
Wired-Nobody wrote:
i never got into steampunk really. one reason was that i didn't want to pay like $200 for a costume.


See, that's where you miss the point. A true steampunk will make his/her own costume, complete with functional accessories.


Perhaps, but I think Mr. Nobody hit the brass nail on the head with the burnished oak and rivet-festooned hammer.

Author:  Wired-Nobody [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:47 am ]
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thosquanta wrote:
frankenstein is a quality novel.


I never said it wasn't. I really want to read Frankenstein.

Author:  Wired-Nobody [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:05 am ]
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skywayman wrote:
Wired-Nobody wrote:
i never got into steampunk really. one reason was that i didn't want to pay like $200 for a costume.


See, that's where you miss the point. A true steampunk will make his/her own costume, complete with functional accessories.

Yeah i suppose, but still i don't have the money for massive amounts of clock parts and copper tubing. and good top hats are really expesive! Its just that i've noticed that websites with charge like $100 more for painting cyber goggles bronze.

I do make my own cyber accessories, but all i have to do is break open really old electronics.

Author:  manna_panna [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:28 pm ]
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I agree the genre is more about spectacle and theatricality than others. That's what I like about it; it's *not* everyday clothing, nor should it be!
As for affordability, I've seen good goggles made from flashlights, clothing made from leather scraps from the bargain bin at S.R.Harris, and (my favorite) a mechanical arm made from Wonderflex, a bra and metallic paint.
Having Amble's, S.R.Harris and Ax-Man in the metro area is truly a blessing for piecemeal costumers.

I am surprised to learn that cyberpunk had deep-rooted philosophical influence. Is this your own interpretation, or is that a wide-spread ideology?

Author:  Ether [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:49 pm ]
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skywayman wrote:
See, that's where you miss the point. A true steampunk will make his/her own costume, complete with functional accessories.



hmmm... does that mean that "Data" from The Goonies was steampunk?

~€~

Author:  thosquanta [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:39 pm ]
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ke kwan is a quality dude.

Author:  Wired-Nobody [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:41 pm ]
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manna_panna wrote:
I am surprised to learn that cyberpunk had deep-rooted philosophical influence. Is this your own interpretation, or is that a wide-spread ideology?


http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1403486 talks about the philosophy of cyberpunk

oh dear, this has gone dreadfully off topic. I propably shouldn't have brought up cyberpunk up at all...

Author:  etoiledunord [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:33 am ]
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Wired-Nobody wrote:
. Also modern steampunk authors are trying really hard to write a genre peice, and thats usually is a formula for failure.


I'd encourage you to give The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson a try - I think it captures a good feeling of steam punk without bashing you over the head with it or sacrificing the story. It's become a favorite of mine.

http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Age-Illus ... 533&sr=1-1

Personally, I like the steam punk look but it doesn't match my lifestyle - I can imagine it would be rather clunky to wear all those brass bits to work...

Author:  Wired-Nobody [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:38 pm ]
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etoiledunord wrote:
Wired-Nobody wrote:
. Also modern steampunk authors are trying really hard to write a genre peice, and thats usually is a formula for failure.


I'd encourage you to give The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson a try - I think it captures a good feeling of steam punk without bashing you over the head with it or sacrificing the story. It's become a favorite of mine.

http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Age-Illus ... 533&sr=1-1

Personally, I like the steam punk look but it doesn't match my lifestyle - I can imagine it would be rather clunky to wear all those brass bits to work...


i read Leviathan by Scott Westerfeld it was like "yeah its mech powered by steam i get it, you don't have to shove every old timey science word in your vocabulary down my throat to describe it." it just tried way too hard.

it does look cool, and i am very impressed by some of the stuff people cook up. but as a whole, steampunk never really intrigued me.

Author:  thosquanta [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:30 pm ]
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zom hates it because it reminds him of his mid-1800s era childhood.

i apologize for taking so long with that one.

Author:  manna_panna [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:14 am ]
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I'm not hardcore Steampunk *by far*, so this opinion is mine own: I don't think Steampunk needs to have some overarching ideology. Steampunk deals in imagination, escapism, pageantry, alt-future-time, mechanics, nostalgia, costumery and definitely exhibitionism. "When Goths discovered brown", indeed. It's so true!

I still love it! And I'm glad to discuss it, or other fashion genres. Philosophy or no, I'm a Goth all about the clothes.

Author:  zom-zom [ Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:18 am ]
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thosquanta wrote:
zom hates it because it reminds him of his mid-1800s era childhood.

i apologize for taking so long with that one.


Thank you. Indeed it does,. Working at the cotton mill at 8 years old was dreadful. The beatings, the disease, rats, lice.
Why anyone would want to relive those wretched days is beyond me.

It's one of the dumbest looking fashion trends to have come along. The music sucks.

Author:  claymation [ Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:41 pm ]
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zom-zom wrote:
The music sucks.


I didn't even know there were steam punk bands! Do they use steam-powered keyboards?

Author:  manna_panna [ Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:07 pm ]
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The one Steampunk band I saw at CONvergence 2009 did have a keyboard tricked out to look like a mechanical organ. They were called "Lemming Malloy" for some reason; but the lead singer was cute. Which is all that ever really matters.

Author:  zom-zom [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:43 am ]
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Uh yeah, that's all that matters with music. Cuteness.


There are a few "Steampunk" bands, like Abney Park. It's such a restrictive and silly genre for artistic expression.

Author:  manna_panna [ Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:52 am ]
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zom-zom wrote:
Uh yeah, that's all that matters with music. Cuteness.


There are a few "Steampunk" bands, like Abney Park. It's such a restrictive and silly genre for artistic expression.


Which is why you have to be cute. ;)

Here, gag on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOgpdp3lP8M

Author:  Ether [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:51 pm ]
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manna_panna wrote:
I'm not hardcore Steampunk *by far*, so this opinion is mine own: I don't think Steampunk needs to have some overarching ideology. Steampunk deals in imagination, escapism, pageantry, alt-future-time, mechanics, nostalgia, costumery and definitely exhibitionism. "When Goths discovered brown", indeed. It's so true!

I still love it! And I'm glad to discuss it, or other fashion genres. Philosophy or no, I'm a Goth all about the clothes.



I know you won't expect this from me of all people, but I really liked this post. Well put.

And thosquanta's zom zing was classic as well. I need to read this thread more often!

~€~

Author:  Rockula! [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:19 pm ]
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Zom Zing?
Wasn't he one of Marylin Manson's guitar players?

Author:  2fisted [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:04 pm ]
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A new Steampunk Justin Bieber song!!!


http://gawker.com/5865597/justin-bieber ... tmas-video

Author:  zom-zom [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:22 pm ]
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Excellent.

Author:  manna_panna [ Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:40 pm ]
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Does this mean Steampunk is now mainstream? Dead? Can we move onto dieselpunk now? Ooh--or Nanopunk! Elfpunk? (I wiki-ed those last two)

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