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zom-zom wrote:
When it comes down to it, I find pornography to be exceedingly boring no matter what genre.

Is it just because nobody makes any that's "age-appropriate"?


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alisgray wrote:
if this were for an anthropology class there would indeed be some use for "culture" and "subculture." but I defer to your background in literature and its conventions, Liighter. sounds like an interesting book. I may have to pick that one up myself.


Considering that I now work mainly in anthropology, I'd disagree. Sometimes the word culture is used as an off-the-cuff word to ease communication. But it's mostly a nasty meta word, that no one likes to describe. We can talk around it, we just can't about it.


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There are certain area's of the country where Goth is still fairly big. I am playing at a festival in NC next month that will be heavy Goth (I don't know what I am going to play), they have a monthly night there that is almost exclusively Goth. They are also hugely into Steampunk


You're kind of right. Yeah, I've noticed there's all this "steampunky" stuff cropping up around some parts of the US, though I can't quite figure out what the music is about (it seems to be more about style of dress then type of music). I kind of think of it as akin to the gothabilly scene down south.

DJ Scary Lady Sarah in Chicago has been doing Nocturna for god knows how fucking long -- it's almost all exclusively goth/darkwave/ethereal/deathrock.

Then there's the case of New York, which is one wacky place -- the scene there has been completely partitioned. For some reason, they're insistent upon only doing club nights in wednesday. You'll have an option to go to the goth night, which seems to exclusively play nothing that came out later then 1987 (and they don't do new wave), where all the kids will be wearing really tight black jeans and pants. Or you can go to the industrial(etc.) night, where you'll see all the kids with goggles and side-show-bob-hair.

Then there's also the club nights that have large rosters of rotating DJs (Boston and Madison do this), where there'll always be the key token goth-dj.


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zom-zom wrote:
When it comes down to it, I find pornography to be exceedingly boring no matter what genre.

Is it just because nobody makes any that's "age-appropriate"?


Please make your posts more readable.


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Goth Porn is hot!

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I hear that LA also does quite a bit of oldskool vs. horror vs. industrial scene partitioning. though of course there's admixture. Diversity is a healthy strategy for the continuation of "the scene."


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alisgray wrote:
I hear that LA also does quite a bit of oldskool vs. horror vs. industrial scene partitioning. though of course there's admixture. Diversity is a healthy strategy for the continuation of "the scene."


Don't know much about the west cost, though judging by playlists of some of the club nights there's a strong partition. There's even a sub-partition so at Das Bunker there's a general ebm and a powernoise room.

I'm not sure what you mean by diversification, but sometimes when you try to appease everyone, you end up pleasing no one.


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I'm not sure what you mean by diversification, but sometimes when you try to appease everyone, you end up pleasing no one.

I share that sentiment. Unfortunately in the Twin Cities we don't have enough active clubgoers in any "specific" genre to make a specialty club night feasible. We kinda merged out of necessity, and even then (and partly because of that), it's a tough row to hoe.

But hey, this is supposed to be a thread about porn, dammit.


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Liighter wrote:
dj_craig wrote:
There are certain area's of the country where Goth is still fairly big. I am playing at a festival in NC next month that will be heavy Goth (I don't know what I am going to play), they have a monthly night there that is almost exclusively Goth. They are also hugely into Steampunk


You're kind of right. Yeah, I've noticed there's all this "steampunky" stuff cropping up around some parts of the US, though I can't quite figure out what the music is about (it seems to be more about style of dress then type of music). I kind of think of it as akin to the gothabilly scene down south.

DJ Scary Lady Sarah in Chicago has been doing Nocturna for god knows how fucking long -- it's almost all exclusively goth/darkwave/ethereal/deathrock.

Then there's the case of New York, which is one wacky place -- the scene there has been completely partitioned. For some reason, they're insistent upon only doing club nights in wednesday. You'll have an option to go to the goth night, which seems to exclusively play nothing that came out later then 1987 (and they don't do new wave), where all the kids will be wearing really tight black jeans and pants. Or you can go to the industrial(etc.) night, where you'll see all the kids with goggles and side-show-bob-hair.

Then there's also the club nights that have large rosters of rotating DJs (Boston and Madison do this), where there'll always be the key token goth-dj.


I haven't quite figured it out yet either (but I need to figure it out soon as they want me to play a steampunk set) They have a weekly radio show dedicated to steampunk: http://www.clockworkcabaret.com/

As far as LA goes, that is the one market in the country that still has a very strong scene with large groups of people for every sub genre. (Course it helps that they have 10MM + people)

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Liighter wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by diversification, but sometimes when you try to appease everyone, you end up pleasing no one.

I share that sentiment. Unfortunately in the Twin Cities we don't have enough active clubgoers in any "specific" genre to make a specialty club night feasible. We kinda merged out of necessity, and even then (and partly because of that), it's a tough row to hoe.

But hey, this is supposed to be a thread about porn, dammit.


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rskm1 wrote:
Liighter wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by diversification, but sometimes when you try to appease everyone, you end up pleasing no one.

I share that sentiment. Unfortunately in the Twin Cities we don't have enough active clubgoers in any "specific" genre to make a specialty club night feasible. We kinda merged out of necessity, and even then (and partly because of that), it's a tough row to hoe.

But hey, this is supposed to be a thread about porn, dammit.


I'm sure porn suffers from the same lumpers vs. splitters problem.

There are lots of people in town here who go clubbing, actually. Watch Hennepin on a Friday night in the warehouse district sometime. It's just that most of them are more down with the hiphop/house thing.


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there's not a lot of hip-hop porn either.

I didn't say none, just not a lot.

ETA: about 10x more than there is goth porn, if Google is to be trusted.

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But the dearth of polka porn is downright unconscionable.

(Me use big words)


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But the dearth of polka porn is downright unconscionable.

(Me use big words)


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also, over a million hits for polka porn.

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Whomever said there isn't much goth porn out there is retarded.

Whomever said there aren't many people who identify themselves as 'goth' is uninformed.

Whomever said there isn't much hip-hop porn out there is blind.

Little Red Hen is retarded for thinking porn can be a book. Meh. A book?!?! You mean, like, where you have to imagine sh*t?!? That's just crazy-talk and way too much work. A pop-up book, maybe. That's it! I'm writing a gothic pop-up porn book!

Goth porn, like all porn, is expansive. There are all kinds and shapes and sizes and preferences. The only thing I can say universally about goth porn is I've never seen a black girl in one. Black guys, yes- but never a black woman. I'm sure it's out there though. Everything is, it seems.

Whomever noticed the connection between gothic porn and the bondage/S&M stuff made an astute observation and is not retarded.

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