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TORE TOIVICCOS INTERVIEW(PARTS FROM TORE TOIVICCOS INTERVIEW 20.7.2005):
**TORE TOIVICCO IS A CHRISTIAN POLITICIAN,ARTIST AND RESEARCHER OF
SATANISM
AND SATANIC CRIME.**

WHO ARE YOU,AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING:
-"WELL, I´M POLITICIAN,ARTIST(GRAPHICS,SCULPTURE,PAINTING,MUSICIAN,
COMPOSER,STAND-UP
COMEDIAN,WRITER(gothic writer),ETC.) AND RESEARCHING SATANISM AND
SATANIC
CRIMES.I LIVE IN DENMARK."

YOU HAVE WRITTEN MANY THINGS ABOUT SATANISM AND PUBLISHED THEM IN
INTERNET.WHY?
-" THAT´S A GOOD QUESTION.MAYBE I HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE.I MAY HAVE
NOT
HAD
OTHER CHOICE THAN TRY TO MAKE THESE THINGS KNOWN,AND SO I HAVE
WRITTEN THEM
IN INTERNET.MAYBE I WASN´T GIVEN ANY OTHER CHANCE.IT´S POSSIBLE THAT
THERE
HAS BEEN SOME KIND OF INTERFERENCE INTO MY LIFE,AND IT HAS MADE ME
FAMILIAR
TO THOUGHT ABOUT SATANIC OR ILLUMINIST ADMINISTRATION ON EARTH,WHICH
WOULD
BE EVEN ABOVE GOVERNMENTS."

WHAT KIND OF INTERFERENCE DO YOU MEAN?
_"F.EX. INTERFERENCE IN TO MY PERSONAL LIFE,MY PERSONAL MATTERS,MY
WORKING
PLACES,MY OFFICIAL MATTERS,ETC.(F.ex. durring last 2 days I got company of 2 psychopaths(sended after me9, and other one beated me on the open street, and i asked at least 20 dansih peole to call police , and no one called police.Instead one dansih person laughed when I got beaten.I did nothing, I didn´t want to fight, and I couldn´t fight because I had my bag and blazer which was not very practical in fighting.)ANYWAY I´M NOT NECESSARILY ACCUSING
MUCH
SOME PEOPLE,EVEN MY WRITINGS ARE SOMETIMES VERY DESPERATE,BUT
GENERALLY
I HAVE ANYWAY MANAGED TO HANDLE MY LIFE ,..SO,... I MEAN THAT THINGS
ARE
NOT TOTALLY BAD,EVEN SOMETIMES I SOUND LIKE THEY WERE.(And sometimes I feel so)"
-"IN FINLAND I WAS CALLED MANY TIMES NAMES LIKE
GAY,JUNKIE,COMMUNIST,PEDOPHILE,PERVERT,NAZI,CRIMINAL,RAPIST,CHEATER,E
T
C."

YOU HAVE ATTACKED AGAINST SATANISM AND SATANISTS? IS THIS ONLY HATE-
PROPAGANDA
YOU ARE DOING?
- " I WANT TO STATE VERY CLEARLY THAT I DON´T WANT MY WRITINGS TO BE
USED
AGAINST SATANISTS.ANY PERSON HAS RIGHT TO PRACTISE THEIR RELIGION OR
HAVE
THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.I KNOW MANY SATANISTS WHOM I RESPECT A
LOT.IF
SATANISTS
ARE NOT DOING ANY CRIMES,WHICH YOU CAN PROVE -YOU BETTER LET THEM BE
IN
PEACE.I HAVE HAD MANY FRIENDS WHO HAS HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH
SATANISM.
IF YOU KNOW ANY CRIMES ,AND CAN PROVE THEM,THAT´S A DIFFERENT
THING.BUT
REMEMBER THAT YOU SHOULD REALLY KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED , AND YOU
SHOULD
BE ABLE TO PROVE IT.(OF COURSE YOU CAN TELL POLICE WHAT YOU THINK
THAT HAS
HAPPENED, BUT I THINK THAT MOST POLICES IGNORE YOUR STORY ,IF YOU
MENTION
SATANISTS OR SATANISM.FOR ME IT SEEMS THAT POLICE (ALL OVER THE
WORLD?)
HAS GOTTEN SOME KIND OF SCHOOLING TO IGNORE PERSONS WHO MENTIONS
SATANISM.MY
POINT IS THAT CRIMES OF SATANISM SHOULD BE HANDLED EXACTLY SAME WAY
AS
ANY OTHER CRIMES.BUT AS I HAVE WRITTEN, AND SO MANY OTHERS BEFORE
ME, -
THERE CAN BE WORLD WIDE SATANIC ADMINISTRATION ABOVE ALL,AND IT
STOPS
INVESTIGATIONS
OF SATANIC CRIMES(LIKE MURDERS,(CHILDRENS)RITUAL ABUSE,ETC.).BUT AS
LONG
AS YOU DON´T KNOW THAT THOSE THINGS HAS HAPPENED,I SUGGEST YOU TO
LEAVE
SATANISTS ALONE AND LET THEM LIVE IN PEACE,AS WELL AS ANY OTHER
MINORITY.IF
YOU DOUBT CRIMES YOU MUST FIRST SOME WAY TO PROVE IT."

ARE YOU AN *****,WHO ONLY WANTS PROBLEMS BY ATTACKING AND PROVOKING
SATANISTS,NAZIST,
ETC.EVERYONE?
-" NO, I´M NOT AN *****,BUT AS I TOLD YOU BEFORE, I HAD NO OTHER
CHOICE
THAN START TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS.I WOULD RATHER LIVE PEACEFUL
LIFE
WITH MY LOVED ONES,DOING NICE PEACEFUL THINGS,GREATING JOY,ETC.BUT
NOW THIS
IS MY SITUATION.DO YOU THINK IT´S SO FUNNY TO WRITE HUMILIATING
THINGS ABOUT
MYSELF,AND PUBLISHING THEM IN INTERNET?OR MAYBE GET SOME EXTREMISTS
ATTENTION.NO
WAY! - THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN LAST THING I WANTED TO DO,BUT AS I
HAVE
SAID
BEFORE: I ACTUALLY HAD NO OTHER CHANCE.I´M ACTUALLY WORRIED - IF
THIS
WORLD
WIDE SATANIC ADMINISTRATION EXISTS,AND FEELS MY WRITINGS DISTURBING
OR ATTACKING
THEM - ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.(BUT PROPABLY I AM NOT THAT FAMOUS AND
FEW
MESSAGES
IN INTERNET,IS NOT ENOUGH TO WAKE THEIR INTEREST.ESPECIALLY WHEN NOW
THERE
IS MORE PRECISE DATA ABOUT THEM AVAILABLE.)I GUESS THEIR EFFORTS IN
THIS
MAY BE ONLY TO LABEL ME SOME KIND OF FOOL OR CHILDISH PERSON,AND IN
THIS
IT´S OF COURSE EASY TO USE MY ARTISTIC CAREER,BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
EASY
TO
LABEL ARTS AND ARTISTS SOMETHING GRAZY OR FOOL.(IT´S STRANGE BECAUSE
ANYWAY
MANY PEOPLE(UNLESS ALL) ENJOY ARTS.)"

Are you attacking against gays?
_"NO. SAME THING GOES WITH THEM TOO, LET MINORITIES LIVE IN PEACE.I
THINK
SOLUTIONS TO HOMOSEXUALITY IS SOLVABLE BY USING CHRISTIANITY OR
MAYBE
L.RON
HUBBARDS TECHNOLOGY,BUT THIS IS LITTLE BIT UTOPIC IDEA I HAVE.I
GUESS
CITIES,CITY-LIFE
WITHOUT LOVE,BROKEN HOMES WITHOUT FATHERS CREATE HOMO-SEXUALITY, AND
NOWADAYS
EVEN MEDIAS ARE PROMOTING IT SOMEWAY.THIS IMPLIES IT HAVING
SOMETHING
TO
DO WITH DEMONIC OR SATANIC GROUND,AS SOME CHRISTIANS SAY."

What kind of artist are you?
-*I have painted pictures,made
graphics,drawing,sculpture,comics,music,composing,photography,design,
p
erformance,stand-up
comedy,etc.

Your english is not perfect - how come you use it,or don´t get your
writings
corrected?
-"WRITINGS ARE TAKEN FROM MY LECTURES ,SO IT´S ACTUALLY SPOKEN WORD
ENGLISH
I´M WRITING,AND THIS IS ENGLISH I HAVE USED "AROUND THE WORLD".ON
THE
OTHER
HAND I´M SO BUSY THAT I HAVE NO TIME TO USE IN ORDER TO CORRECT
THESE
WRITINGS,
- ACTUALLY MANY TIMES I DON´T EVEN HAVE TIME TO READ THROUGH WHAT I
HAVE
WRITTEN."

What is your solution to problems you have told?
-"I THINK SOLUTION IS GOOD PEOPLE,CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE
ABOVE CONSERVATIVE
MENTALITY.WE HAVE SEEN CONCENTRATION CAMPS OF NAZIS (6 MILLION JEWS)
AND
COMMUNISTS(8-50 MILLION JEWS OR MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE),HOW THEY KILLED
THOSE
PEOPLE.CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE IS MAYBE ONLY HOPE,BECAUSE THEY MAYBE DO
THE
RIGHT THING,I MEAN CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE WITH CHRISTIAN MORALS.BUT
ALSO
I
BELIEVE THAT NON-CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE MOSTLY DO THE RIGHT
THING
ALSO.THEY MAY ANYWAY HAVE OTHER BELIEFS AND THAT WAY ARE NOT HAVING
GOOD
WILLING CHRISTIAN VALUES."

Can you explain little bit more?
-"THESE CONSEVATIVE OR CHRISTIAN PEOPLE HAS A DECENCY , AND THEY CAN
DO
GOOD THINGS TO OTHER PEOPLE.SOME KIND OF CITY LIFE,LOVELESS LIFE-
STYLE,LOVELESS
PARENTS OR LOVELESS SURROUNDINGS WHEN PEOPLE ARE CHILDREN AND YOUNG -

(SCHOOL
IS ALSO IMPORTANT THING IN THIS) - MAKES PEOPLE LOVELESS AND THEY
MAY
LATER
BE UNHAPPY AND HATE AND DO BAD THINGS,INSTEAD OF CREATING JOY AROUND
THEM
ALL THE TIME AND BEING HAPPY.THEY MAY HAVE LOST "TRAUMATICALLY"
THEIR
PARENTS(DIVORCED),FRIEND,LOVED
ONE(FREE SEXUALITY),OR EXPERIENCED VIOLENCE AND THEREFORE FEAR, AND
THESE
KIND OF THINGS HAS MADE THEM SO CALLED CITY-PEOPLE,WHO ARE TOUGH AND
DON´T
CAREMUCH ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE,UNLESS IT DOESN´T BENEFIT
THEMSELVES.THEY
ALSO
MAY OFTEN (ALMOST ALWAYS?)BE PART OF SOME GANGS OR GROUPS,IN ORDER
TO
GET
BETTER LIFE).
ANYWAY CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE CREATE STABILITY,AND I BELIEVE THAT
CONSERVATIVE
MUSLIMS,CHRISTIANS,CATHOLICS,JEWS,ARABS,ETC. CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE ALL
OVER
THE WORLD CAN LIVE THEIR LIVES IN PEACE HAVING NOTHING AGAINST EACH
OTHERS."

You get many times bad comments because of your writings.Comment?
-"I ALSO GET POSITIVE FEEDBACK,AND I THINK FEEDBACK IS MOSTLY
POSITIVE.ONE
THING WHICH I HAVE NOTED IS THAT SOMETIMES I GET BAD FEEDBACK
IMMEDIATELY
OR ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER I HAVE WRITTEN SOMETHING ,WHICH IS
REALLY
GOOD...???...SOME
L.RON HUBBARDS WRITINGS CAN EXPLAIN PHENOMENA BEHIND THAT,BUT ALSO I
THINK
IT IMPLIES THAT THERE CAN BE SOME PEOPLE CONTROLLING WHAT I´M
DOING.IT HAS
HAPPENED SO MANY TIMES,AND FEEDBAK HAS BEEN REALLY BAD.SOME WAY BAD
ENOUGH
DELETE GOOD FEELING ,WHICH HAS BEEN IN MY MESSAGES....IT´S
STRANGE...LIKE
PURPOSE OF THOSE COMMENTS WERE TO DELETE GOOD FEELING OF MY WRITING
AND
INSTEAD CONNECT SOME KIND OF DISGUSTING OR WEIRD FEELING TO IT."

More?
-"NOTHING....OH,WELL...ONCE SOMEONE HAD SENDED MY CHRISTMAS-
STORY TO SOME FORUM,SOME KIND OF FORUM OF ROCK-PEOPLE,AND SOMEONE
ACTUALLY THOUGHT...HE HE ... THAT SOME THINGS IN IT WERE ABOUT THIS
PERSON.THEN THERE WERE FEW PEOPLE REACTING STRONGLY AGAINST ME
BECAUSE OF THAT AND THEY WROTE MANY BED THINGS ABOUT ME AND FINALLY
DELETED THAT MESSAGE AND CHANGED THEIR WHOLE FORUM SYSTEM.THEREFORE
I
AGAIN REPEAT: MY CHRISTMAS-STORY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REAL
INCIDENTS AND IT SHOULD BE TAKEN AS A HALLUCINATION.

What is your religion?
-"I´M CHRISTIAN SCIENTIST("WHITE ANGLO-SAXICAN
PROTESTANT",=W.A.S.P),WHO
IN SOME DEGREE BELIEVES IN JESUS CHRIST OR BELIEVES IN BELIEVING IN
JESUS
CHRIST.THIS MEANS NORDIC CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANITY,WHICH ONLY WANTS
TO CREATE
GOODNESS,AND NOT HARM ANYONE.IF WE THINK PHILOSOPHY(WHICH EQUALS
RELIGION
IN SOME DEGREE) HAVE I READ SOME DATA FROM L.RON HUBBARDS
BOOKS,LISTENED
ROCK-PHILOSOPHY THROUGH MUSIC,ETC..."

Do you want so say more about it?
-" Ehm...hm...okay...f.ex.: . http://www.new-life.net/satan.htm ,,,
and
this link : www.chickcomics.com !"

George W. Bush?
-"I DON´T BLAME HIM, AND I THINK USA MUST BE NUMBER ONE COUNTRY IN
THE WORLD.MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THINGS MAY CHANGE , BUT NOW IT IS THIS
WAY.EVRYONE MAY THINK WHAT OTHER CHOICES WE HAVE, F.EX. EUROPEAN
HERITAGE OF TREATING F.EX.RELIGIOUS MINORITIES IS NOT VERY GOOD.I
BELIEVE IN TRUTH , AND I THINK THAT TRUTH ABOUT POWER STRUCTURES
ABOVE GOVERNMENTS(AND BUSH) MAY SAVE AND CHANGE WORLD.

(TO BE CONTINUED)


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WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE YELLING?


Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:08 pm
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what is this spam about?

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This is the third time I've not-read that long-winded gibberish.


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zom-zom wrote:
WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE YELLING?


Yelling is the new talking.

Gibberish is the new language.

Soon every internet post will read like our friend's introduction.

I don't know about you, but I am very excited to read part two.

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All caps.

Online sado masochism.

Feel the burn.

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rskm1 wrote:
This is the third time I've not-read that long-winded gibberish.


well then write an abbreviated version for those of us who are less patient (smarter) than you ;P

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No, I don't think he did read it, actually.. Frater could probably help us.

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drok_vox wrote:
rskm1 wrote:
This is the third time I've not-read that long-winded gibberish.


well then write an abbreviated version for those of us who are less patient (smarter) than you ;P

Nono, I said:
This is the third time I've not-read that long-winded gibberish.

I start skimming as soon as I see ALL CAPS, and by the time I start hitting
manually mis-broken
lines,
and parentheses (that are nested (doubly!!)), my eyes have already glazed over.

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zom-zom wrote:
WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE YELLING?


WHAT.... I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER ALL THE YELLING.

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Nemphusi wrote:
No, I don't think he did read it, actually.. Frater could probably help us.


God no, I didn't read it either, seems too much like work. I far prefer lending "witty comments" than reading

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Let's just keep this thread going for the hell of it. No one wants to click on it and scroll all the friggin' way down to this point, so it'll be our little secret. We can say anything about anyone and it won't matter.


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Really, anything?

Woohoo!!!!

While Avenpitch is a great sounding band, based on the photos I've seen of them, they should really work on putting together a cohesive polished image.

There.

I've wanted to say that for a long time.

Oh, and is it just me, or does Mystech sound a hell of a lot like Frank Zappa?

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david's wife is a stone fox.

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Nemphusi wrote:
Really, anything?

Woohoo!!!!

While Avenpitch is a great sounding band, based on the photos I've seen of them, they should really work on putting together a cohesive polished image.

There.

I've wanted to say that for a long time.

Oh, and is it just me, or does Mystech sound a hell of a lot like Frank Zappa?


I'm amazed you care enough to care about our image. Thanks for caring.

We spent a lot of time hemming and hawing over image and came to the conclusion we should just look like what we are, a bunch of dorky midwestern guys who like to act goofy onstage and play music. It's a lot easier and I have to dress up for work (upper tier of business casual), so it's nice not to have to when playing.

In this way, we are similar to classic MPLS band Husker Du and not very classic MPLS band The Replacements. This could, of course, fuck us in the ass popularity wise, but any band whose primary goal is to be huge rock stars should quit their job and move to LA, let's be honest.

The other thing people seem to have a problem about in AP is Todd's voice, I think that is one of those "like it or don't" sort of things with not too much middle ground. Fortunately, given how often I hear it, I do like it quite a bit.

And, yes, the Mys-Techs are Zappa-esque, but whatever you think of that they are amazing to see live and there's a lot of very funny stuff on their CDs (that said, I think the live production of the newest album let it down a bit after the previous records) and my wife is a fox, thanks for noticing.

I like this whole "no one else is watching" concept.

My question for you Nemph is why do you spend so much time on a local forum far away from where you live? Not that I mind, I think an outsider perspective is great. I'm just curious as I spent a little time going on other boards in promotion of our tours and found all of them, except for the one in Traverse City, boring because I lacked the local knowledge. Do you find that a problem?

Shit, if my post was in all caps, it'd be as long and incoherant as the original dude's.

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Well, personally, I love Todd's voice, and have done what I can to spread word of your band down here. Don't get the wrong idea, man, I love your band.

Oh, and I love the Mystech's too. That was supposed to be a compliment.

I hang out here on Gothling because all the other boards bore me. They're full of pretense and a "Gothier than thou" attitude that I find repugnant. This is one of the few places I can actually stand to be around. As far as why I'm not involved in my own local scene. As far as I'm aware there is no local scene. When I first came here, Rob told me of a place up near KC, but that was way too damn far for me, being only fourteen at the time, and still way too damn far, being lazy and unthrilled now. Maybe I'll meet some people in college, but the majority of goths I've met are the fourteen year old Mansonite Bondage pants type of kid. I didn't really like them that much, and the art kids my age were way too unfriendly and cliquish for my tastes.

Besides, the people here are cool, and the music here is cool. Much, much better than the stuff coming out of Wichita, and to a large degree, Lawrence, except for Vibralux, which rules. Of course, there are little bits of the board that I miss out on. Event Planning for example, something for which I am sure IO is grateful for... I dunno...

So, who here things Mammagoth's the sexiest webhost to walk on two feet?

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