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boot
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:48 pm Posts: 211 Location: MN
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 Cyborgs Rule!
well... no. Actually they don't .... not yet at least.
But they are a wondrous combination of man and machine...
What constitutes a cyborg? Do simple machines count?
Would you augment? why? why not?
What limbs or bits would you have augmented?
Would you hire yourself out as a contract killer to get the latest super duper third party mod kits in the height of bad ass cyberpunkified style? Would you wear leather, latex, or practical kevlar in the carrying out of these duties?
What social issues would arise from mass augmentation? (I feel a GiTS thread coming on)
In the meantime how about some TELESCOPE EYES?

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Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:06 pm |
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veinsplasher
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:49 pm Posts: 3157
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It's funny... I watched some of the original "cyborg", today... Col. Steve Austin.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v987955nGNKHghH
The show is so 70's, it hurts, but this episode has everything... Oscar Goldman, Dr. Rudy Wells, Bigfoot, Jamie Sommers, etc.
And then there's the book it was based on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg_%28novel%29
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Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:45 pm |
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devil
Joined: Sun Oct 06, 2002 7:00 pm Posts: 5056
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I don't even think about "cyborgs." I don't understand why anyone would.
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Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:16 pm |
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2fisted
Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2002 7:00 pm Posts: 3375 Location: ATBOG
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It's my hope to replace my gimpy lower right arm w/ a cold, mechanical impliment.
Then I could crack heads like walnuts.
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Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:22 pm |
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thosquanta
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:52 pm Posts: 3442 Location: minneapolis
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devil wrote: I don't even think about "cyborgs." I don't understand why anyone would.
pacemakers, stents, insulin pumps, artificial hearts, etc etc.
why think about it? coz its a multibillion dollar industry. is how i make monies!
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Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:13 pm |
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veinsplasher
Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:49 pm Posts: 3157
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devil wrote: I don't even think about "cyborgs." I don't understand why anyone would.
We already read all the music reviews... and we're bored silly.
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Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:41 pm |
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rskm1
Joined: Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:00 pm Posts: 4917 Location: S St Paul
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devil wrote: I don't even think about "cyborgs." I don't understand why anyone would.
Because <i>they're everywhere</i> ! ! !

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Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:14 pm |
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devil
Joined: Sun Oct 06, 2002 7:00 pm Posts: 5056
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thosquanta wrote: devil wrote: I don't even think about "cyborgs." I don't understand why anyone would. pacemakers, stents, insulin pumps, artificial hearts, etc etc. why think about it? coz its a multibillion dollar industry. is how i make monies!
Are we discussing cybernetics or actual cyborgs? Huge difference. One is an industry and one is juvenile fantasy.
And do pacemakers, stents, insulin pumps and artificial hearts even fall under the heading of "cybernetics?"
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Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:18 pm |
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thosquanta
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:52 pm Posts: 3442 Location: minneapolis
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from wiki:
Quote: "According to some definitions of the term, the metaphysical and physical attachments humanity has with even the most basic technologies have already made them cyborgs.[4] In a typical example, a human fitted with a heart pacemaker or an insulin pump (if the person has diabetes) might be considered a cyborg, since these mechanical parts enhance the body's "natural" mechanisms through synthetic feedback mechanisms. Some theorists cite such modifications as contact lenses, hearing aids, or intraocular lenses as examples of fitting humans with technology to enhance their biological capabilities; however, these modifications are no more cybernetic than would be a pen, a wooden leg, or the spears used by chimps to hunt vertebrates.[5] Cochlear implants that combine mechanical modification with any kind of feedback response are more accurately cyborg enhancements."
cyborg is generally defined as a combination of synthetic and organic, and, yes, pacemakers definately qualify. what part of the 'juvenile fantasy' that you're taking about isn't now reality? artificial hands (a la star wars) aren't there yet, but we're getting there quickly. even androids are becoming reality with the korean advent of EVE-1, or whatever shes called. it hardly qualifies as fantasy if there are production models in existence, if you ask me. even 'artificial intelligence' exists. and has, for a long time. just because sentience has yet to arrise in machines doesn't mean it never will. humans are little more than biological machines, and we obtained sentience somewhere along the line...
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Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:13 pm |
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Trioxin245
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 3:10 pm Posts: 241
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I just want chainsaw hands BZZZZZ!!
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:02 pm |
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drok
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2003 4:12 pm Posts: 4274 Location: pyramids of mars
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I would definitely fix a few things- back, knees. Augment? I dunno. a built in chromatic tuner and spell check.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:09 pm |
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alisgray
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2004 9:21 pm Posts: 2036 Location: not on this site. contact me elsewhere.
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hm. do IUDs count for cyborging? I definitely considered it a medical upgrade.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:18 pm |
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thosquanta
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:52 pm Posts: 3442 Location: minneapolis
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id SO go for an implantable islets of langerhans. spell check sounds like a good idea, too.
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:50 pm |
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DJ SLT (ATB)
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:12 pm Posts: 351 Location: St Pocalypse, MN.
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I could go for self tinting eyes. Then I would never have to wear shades again.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:09 am |
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manna_panna
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:47 pm Posts: 701 Location: the rotted glory of minneapolis suburbia
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I would want fiber-optic hair. It would be programmable for any color in an instant without smelly dye or damaging chemicals. I could be blonde for work and purple/green/black for play!
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:36 pm |
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thosquanta
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2003 5:52 pm Posts: 3442 Location: minneapolis
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manna_panna wrote: I would want fiber-optic hair. It would be programmable for any color in an instant without smelly dye or damaging chemicals. I could be blonde for work and purple/green/black for play!
TONKS!
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:13 pm |
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manna_panna
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:47 pm Posts: 701 Location: the rotted glory of minneapolis suburbia
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thos, you geek!
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:00 pm |
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devil
Joined: Sun Oct 06, 2002 7:00 pm Posts: 5056
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I think I'm just gonna ride this organic thing out, see where it takes me. I'm not into this whole mechanical animals thing.
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:25 pm |
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rev
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2005 1:49 am Posts: 91 Location: St. Paul
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devil wrote: I think I'm just gonna ride this organic thing out, see where it takes me. I'm not into this whole mechanical animals thing.
mmmmm..... mechanical animals! ..... now I'm gonna be up all night!
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